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Carradine Death Looking Like Sex Gone Wrong

When Kung Fu simulator David Carradine was found hanged to death in Bangkok hotel room closet, suicide was reasonably suspected. But now, evidence seems to be pointing to one of those grisly masturbation accidents:

Carradine, 72, was found naked in a closet in an upscale Bangkok hotel on Thursday with cords around his neck and his genitals. The police are checking DNA found on the cords, but say they found no signs of a struggle, suggesting that Carradine might have either tied himself up or submitted voluntarily to his incapacitation.

Thai police seem to be insinuating that it was one of those choke-yourself-and-masturbate things where then the person slips or whatever and dies. Carradine’s friends are universally of the opinion that he wouldn’t kill himself. A full autopsy is scheduled to come out on Saturday.

Celebrities, please take this to heart: just masturbate in a normal fashion. You all love autoerotic asphyxiation until it kills you. And haven’t we already learned the consequences of tying a cord around your genitals?

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  • OrneryBabe

    @ginger rant: Seriously! Why can't men just wait the 20 or so minutes it takes for them to go another round?

    OrneryBabe

  • DorothyBarker

    @BookishLookish: i actually had a boyfriend who routinely had 'multiples'--with me. he'd never had them before. apparently i'm magic. fucker still broke up with me. okay, i've said too much.

  • Duck_Lips

    @Meeg: This is so true. It would be the irony of all ironies to die this way in that city.

    Duck_Lips

  • crazycatlady

    @ginger rant: my question is what does the rope around the genitals do? i get the "around the neck" deal but down south? enlighten me please.

    crazycatlady

  • lil red

    Saw the film "In the Realm of the Senses" back in the 1980s- appropriately enough it does explain the male fascination with the eroticism involved in auto-erotic asphyxiation:

    lil red

  • rudi_freude

    @Dave J.:
    They could be waiting for the highest bidder.

    rudi_freude

  • Dave J.

    @stew: You never know with those twisted Hollyweirdos!

    Nah, just that if he walked back to his room with a hooker/friend/hotel employee, cameras in the lobby and elevators are where you'd have evidence of who was with him in his room.

    And why would the hotel hide it? Possibly because they helped him arrange his "date" for the evening, or possibly because they sent one of their more attractive female employees to his room, or any other number of possibilities.

  • stew

    @Dave J.: did he jack off in the elevator TOO???????

  • Dave J.

    TMZ says that the hotel in Thailand is being really slow at turning over security camera tape (presumably lobby/elevator) to the cops.

  • BookishLookish

    @forgetitjake: Tease.

  • forgetitjake

    @BookishLookish:
    Just call me Forgetit.

  • Dave J.

    @intime: If a hooker was involved, it's doubtful this was his first time, so we can now prepare for a number of "oh, he booked me for the night in 2004 and had me tie him up" salacious stories from hookers.

    I really feel bad for his family. They thought it was hard having it reported that he killed himself, but now the news is just going to get completely seedy and skeezy.

  • BookishLookish

    @forgetitjake: I have always meant to ask you, is it "forge tit, Jake" or "forget it, Jake"? I mean, I just think of you as "Jake," but inquiring minds and all.

  • Dave J.

    @ms.conniving: I agree with you, but change "church" to "Utah" and "young men" to "young women."

  • ms.conniving

    @rudi_freude: Only because I couldn't figure out how to tie a knot around my genitals. Damn clit.

    ms.conniving

  • stew

    best part of the tsg document "galpal and Scientologist."

  • ms.conniving

    @BookishLookish: Church is underrated as a great place to pick up sexually repressed young men. With guilt issues. Total awesomeness.

    ms.conniving

  • forgetitjake

    @BookishLookish: Girls who always wear black undies seldom go to church on Sundays.

  • rudi_freude

    @ms.conniving:
    At least you're still breathing.

    rudi_freude

  • BookishLookish

    @ms.conniving: That and the fact that I think you are my long-lost Canadian twin, and I never, ever go to church.

  • ms.conniving

    @ms.conniving: Well that post went horribly wrong.

    ms.conniving

  • scroll_lock

    @BankerHardcore: That made me picture Ed Begley using it. EWW.

  • forgetitjake

    This might make for a great cinematic moment but it wasn't Quentin T that wrote it. Didn't anybody now living ever see that Peter O'Toole film The Ruling Class?

    (Also, who can write the Post hed for "grisly masturbation accident"? Must include allusion to Kung Fu series, must not exceed 22 characters including spaces and punctuation.)

  • intime

    It seems that if his hands were tied behind his back there would be no speculation of suicide to begin with.

    I'm betting a hooker was somehow invloved in this.

  • ms.conniving

    @BookishLookish: Is it the small profile picture of girls pawing at my ta-tas that gives you that impression?

    ms.conniving

  • BookishLookish

    @Mama Penguino: The roller coaster. Yes, I have heard tell of it.

  • pooks

    @audition4THIS: Uh, he got off and then passed out-- that's how people accidentally kill themselves when doing this. On a scale of "peaceful" to "violent" death, I'd say this would probably be better than dying in one's sleep. This isn't a kick-the-chair-out, hang-from-a-light-fixture kind of hanging.

  • BookishLookish

    @ms.conniving: O.K., I believe you, though I have a hard time picturing you in a church.

  • Mama Penguino

    @BookishLookish: Yes, precisely. It's an awesome thing and I don't mean "awesome" the way the kids use it, but as "inspiring awe," and "remarkable," and "outstanding."

  • BankerHardcore

    @BookishLookish: One can only hope.

  • BankerHardcore

    @scroll_lock: Mini-solar panel for the eco-conscience.

  • BankerHardcore

    @winchesterwolcott: The thing about sexual activities like this, is that even with a spotter unless the people involved are experienced and careful you can still end up with this result.

    Not that I would know or anything...

  • ms.conniving

    @BookishLookish: A couple I went to church with (back when I used to think I needed to cleanse my sins instead of celebrating them) went on vacation to Mexico. He accidentally killed her during asphyxiation and was held on charges. So, yeah, women can die.

    ms.conniving

  • KristaJulieva

    @audition4THIS: His last minutes were not awesome, especially when you consider a fair portion of it was spent thinking, "This isn't going to sound good in the obits."

  • Kitten_Witawip

    Reports are now that in addition to being naked and hanged with his junk tied up, his hands were also tied behind his back. So it's looking like he was not alone at the tine.

    Kitten_Witawip

  • Harry Pelotas

    @Shivery.McPickles: He accidentally gave his penis the Five Point Palm Exploding Heart Technique.

    Harry Pelotas

  • WretchedGnu

    @rudi_freude: ...turned grand in this case, sadly.

    WretchedGnu

  • rudi_freude

    @MissyMiss:
    Whacking off to an audience is the reason webcams were invented.

    rudi_freude

  • MissyMiss

    I wonder if being alone is part of the kink? Otherwise, it would be wise to have a spotter.

  • winchesterwolcott

    @Aidan_: How true! He should have had someone "spot" him.

  • rudi_freude

    @chenry:
    There was no evidence of sucking.

    rudi_freude

  • chenry

    @chenry: Well, I mean. He died, so that sucks. But dying without finishing something, that's how ghost stories start.

  • chenry

    Hope he finished before he checked out, 'cos otherwise that just sucks.

  • rudi_freude

    @bboston88 (star please?):
    Hutchence couldn't deal with The Devil Inside. He shoulda gotten off on A New Sensation instead.

    rudi_freude

  • meechybee

    I'm impressed that he was still wacking it at 72.

    Bless pharmaceuticals.

  • scroll_lock

    @BookishLookish: "WM seeking man-hands chick for kinky reading of my latest treatment for the screen. Life-size pull toy waiting to meet you."

  • TripMcCane

    @WhyNo: Tu Soon

  • TripMcCane

    When I was watching Kill Bill II with a friend (Spoiler: stop reading if you haven't seen the flick) -- it was the part after Uma applied the five point death touch thing to Bill and they were talking prior to his next steps, which would kill him -- Caradine, as Bill, asks her "How do I look?" I talked back to the screen in an Austin Powers Fat Bastard voice: "Dead sexy!" Too bad that turned out to be too true.

    In an interview once Caradine stated that he believed a man has to cum everyday if he wants to be a real man. In my youth I was quite impressed by this -- I found his intensity about his philosophy something to admire. Sadly it appears he took it to a tragic extreme. I didn't know him as Grasshopper or whatever. (I can't recall, but I think I may have objected to/boycotted the show on the grounds that an Asian should have gotten the role he played.) But I did know him as an intense actor who lived to the limit and sometimes beyond it. Sorry to see that he went too far one time too many.

  • scroll_lock

    @princeCapsaicin: A thoughtful manufacturer would include a world-wide adapter kit. Father's Day's coming up! (pun intended)

  • Rumpelstilskin

    @rudi_freude: Andrew Marvell, "To His Coy Mistress"

    Rumpelstilskin

  • agameofchess

    @Lazy Susan: Well, a self-bang.

    agameofchess

  • rudi_freude

    @WretchedGnu:
    Le petit mort?

    rudi_freude

  • BookishLookish

    @WretchedGnu: Anais Nin, I think.

  • BookishLookish

    @audition4THIS: Lulz, the "autoerotic variety" is now hip? Does this mean there are going to be a lot more dead kids coming straight outta Williamsburg, striped boating shirts tied around their necks and brand-new All-Stars askew?

  • bboston88 (star please?)

    @rudi_freude: Seriously. Remember INXS. They ended up getting a new lead singer off a reality show. All sorts of tragic.

  • WretchedGnu

    Freud sez we're looking for death in orgasm anyway. Or maybe that was Shakespeare.

    WretchedGnu

  • BookishLookish

    @scroll_lock: A terrible waste. I wish he would have just ordered up a nice Bangkok hooker with strongish hands for a bit of chokey-chokey while he jerked off. Now we won't ever get to see him again and it is so, so sad.

    /real teardrop

  • princeCapsaicin

    @scroll_lock: Nice. The European outlet adapter will be extra though.

    princeCapsaicin

  • BookishLookish

    @Mama Penguino: Are you referring to the "multiple orgasm" that some women are so lucky to experience, but which in men is mostly unknown?

  • daveyjonesisdead

    @Claire Buoyant: Well now you've gone too far.

    daveyjonesisdead

  • audition4THIS

    People! Is making a Gawker-approved comment really worth being so absolutely dead wrong? (pun intended)

    Asphyxiation is NOT a good way to go, even if it is of the hip, autoerotic variety. David Carradine's last minutes were not awesome. You do not want to go like this.

    audition4THIS

  • Mama Penguino

    @BookishLookish: I guess when you only have one shot at the orgasm, you want it to be super-special. I like the fact that if I'm willing to put in the time and effort, I can guarantee myself a good time in double digits.

  • bmoreDLJ

    The Thai maid killed him with a candlestick in the conservatory.

    bmoreDLJ

  • rockandhardPL

    @Claire Buoyant:Win!

  • BookishLookish

    @princeCapsaicin: Are you that nerdy science boy I have been praying for? Please invent this, for all the hot/pervy older actors of the world. I'm thinking Terrence Stamp might be next, and I just couldn't stand to lose him too.

  • rockandhardPL

    @AndPreciousLittleofThat:Ha!

  • scroll_lock

    @princeCapsaicin: Or a foot pedal like a sewing machine has.

  • Lazy Susan

    Aside from the dignity issue - if I can go like this at 72, rather than, say, cancer or a car accident... I mean... I'd rather go with a bang.

  • Claire Buoyant

    @WhyNo: Cum Fool.

  • princeCapsaicin

    @princeCapsaicin: oof- hand as in left hand I'm guessing.

    princeCapsaicin

  • princeCapsaicin

    I'm thinking you want a simple had held device wherein when the button is held down, rope is attached to a device. When the button is released- circuit opens and rope is released from device. Not sure there is a big enough market to patent the "autojackusavior" but, I'm throwing it out there anyway.

    princeCapsaicin

  • Claire Buoyant

    @winchesterwolcott: And don't stick things into orifices where exit is the normal direction.

  • rudi_freude

    @She Laughs:
    Make room in that handbasket, will ya?

    rudi_freude

  • scroll_lock

    I'll never understand a person's willingness to potentially lose their life just to get off. It's not like he was a naive kid, either. A tragic waste.

  • She Laughs

    @WhyNo: I snickered...and I'm going to Hell for it.

  • spotted-dog

    @Ellene DeMille: or just put your free hand around your neck and squeeze.

    spotted-dog

  • BookishLookish

    @ginger rant: I have never heard of a woman dying of autoerotic asphyxiation. Maybe some men just need a little something extra.

  • WhyNo

    Hung Foo'

    WhyNo

  • Aidan_

    At least have a safety-buddy or something.

    Aidan_

  • scottthesot

    @daveyjonesisdead: I was thinking "gristle", but now I'm laughing too hard. Thank you.

    scottthesot

  • remedymalahide

    anyone ever tried it? is it really much much much better than a regular pretty awesome orgasm? Like worth nearly dying for?

    remedymalahide

  • BBooms

    Not to diminish from the tragedy of Carradine's death, but man, what an embarrassing way to die. Hopefully he got to orgasm before accidentally killing himself.

  • jasonelias

    @[en.wikipedia.org] Big loss...

  • AndPreciousLittleofThat

    I don't see what the problem is. We should all be so lucky to die while we're doing something we love.

    AndPreciousLittleofThat

  • misslinda

    @BookishLookish: Perhaps what the autoerotic asphyxiation community needs is a telethon to raise money for funding research. That, and a good spokesperson. I nominate a Baldwin.

  • MsMuffinMcGuffin

    @Spirit Fingers: I'm sure Tarantino will feature an homage in his next movie.

  • Fry_Bread_Power

    @Kid Twist: Also keep the genitals free of noose-like props, you know, just in case.

  • Meeg

    Do people really masturbate in Bangkok though? Maybe there was a hooker involved.

  • TableNine

    @BookishLookish: This is a tragedy. Or as Richard Quest would call it, a walk in the park.

    TableNine

  • Spirit Fingers

    I'm sorry, but am I the only one who feels like Tarantino basically wrote this death? It's so something he would put in one of his movies. Eerie.

    And also, this is a vision I really don't want to have at 10:25 in the morning.

    Spirit Fingers

  • rudi_freude

    @daveyjonesisdead:
    Oh, you teddy bear, you.

    rudi_freude

  • once

    @DahlELama: I know, I posted this yesterday w/ a link to the BBC w/ details

    once

  • daveyjonesisdead

    @Kid Twist: I had a grizzly masturbation accident once - see, it had run up a tree and I climbed after it....Oh, grisly.

    daveyjonesisdead

  • winchesterwolcott

    @Kid Twist: Keep your neck free of noose-like props. You should be fine.

  • rudi_freude

    @DahlELama:
    Hutchence came, he went, and others simply followed suit.

    rudi_freude

  • Kid Twist

    I just hope that no one ever uses the phrase "grisly mastrubation accident" in connection with me.

  • BookishLookish

    Come on, nerdy science boys who like this kink, please invent something already so we don't have to keep losing people like this.

  • DahlELama

    This seemed kind of obvious yesterday, and that was before I heard anything about a cord around the genitals. Has Michael Hutchence literally taught the world nothing?

    DahlELama

  • Ohcaptainmycaptain

    I know I might not get to die in my sleep, but I sure as hell don't wanna go this way.

  • ginger rant

    I guess I'm naive re: turning to autoerotic asphyxiation: why isn't a regular ol' orgasm good enough? I mean, no offense to Carradine (if he turns out to have self-asphyxiated), but how greedy can one get?

    ginger rant

  • Ellene DeMille

    Why couldn't he just hold his breath like normal people?

    Ellene DeMille

  • Shivery.McPickles

    I, for one, would be very glad to hear that if Carradine had to go, it was while doing something circus freaky instead of just super sad.

  • forgetitjake

    @crazycatlady:
    Well obviously, that's to choke the lungfish.

  • Sin DeRolla

    This is not poetic.

    Sin DeRolla

  • bangers

    @princeCapsaicin: i think what would work best is some kind of magnetic device quick-release...like on treadmills.
    /patent

  • magstheaxe

    @scroll_lock: A friend of mine put it best years ago: "A man will go places with a hard dick that he wouldn't go with a loaded shotgun." The dangerous lengths people will go to in order to seek a sexual high are unbelievable.

    magstheaxe

  • nehru

    @forgetitjake: Know exactly what scene you're thinking of in the Ruling Class. I watched it alone during my winter vacation and am still finding it disconcertingly weird. PM me if you feel like film buffing it.

    nehru

  • irishflyesq

    @BookishLookish: Terrence Stamp, excellent. Do you think he'd yell out "Kneel Before Zod" as he came?

    irishflyesq

  • Swordfish

    Dumb.

    Swordfish

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