@kookla: not surprised, he looks to be very good at the blackfacing thing with "tropic thunder." can't wait to see that movie.

bess marvin, girl detective

Spike Lee's a hypocritical ass and is just about as racist as he purports caucasians to be. Go Clint!

TurdBlossom

@Go Like Hell Machine: they were asking about watchable movies...

kifbox

Spike, the best way to win this argument is to be as impressive and prolific a filmmaker as Eastwood is when you're 78 years old. Although I don't see that happening, since you're not anywhere near that now.

nick_r

@bess marvin, girl detective: The 25th Hour

Go Like Hell Machine

@Cheap Shot: he got game, inside man, malcolm x and bamboozled.

bess marvin, girl detective

I hear Robert Downey Jr is going to play Nelson Mandela in Clint's new movie.

kookla

Spike hasn't done anything watchable since perhaps Do The Right Thing.

Cheap Shot

@harshmellow: Exactly.

NoWireHangers

@KarenUhOh: How do you remember all that stuff?

Sailor

DEF Cage Jam (Directors Extreme Fighting) - Featuring Spike Lee, Uwe Boll, Warner Herzog, Clint Eastwood and any other directors who feel the need to dis' the work of fellow DGA members.

Words solve nothing. Get In The Ring! (available only on Pay-Per-View, except for fights involving Robert Redford which are shown exclusively on the SUndance Channel.)

CourageousCoward

Clint's just saying what everyone else has wanted to say to Spike for years, that is, ever since Spike became a shrewish man who took himself way too seriously.

hhpeterson13

I liked that part in Coogan's Bluff when he made the Indian put his pants on.

KarenUhOh

I like both of them, but I think Spike is way off base here. I believe what Clint is saying, and I also believe that Clint went for authenticity rather than forced-diversity. It was a historical film.

harshmellow

Dirty Harry just moded Spike Lee.

jason1007

Spike Lee needs to get rid of his "complain about something every 3 months" rule. If there's nothing substantial to bitch about, just shut the fuck up.

RaptorAvatar

Spike should not be making Dirty Harry angry. I have this image in my head right now of Clint Eastwood running into Spike Lee and doing the "do you feel lucky punk" sequence from The Enforcer. I think Spike would not be so lucky that day.

BrainyHistorian

@bess marvin, girl detective:

You're kidding about Malcom X right?

The movie that he yanked away from Norman Jewison, Director of A Soldier's Story, because Jewison was white? (And a Jew?)

The movie where Spike chooses to do a foolish Zoot Suit Dance number sequence for 30 minutes, but Malcom's spiritual journey to Mecca that changes his life is a five minute montage?

The movie where at the end they get Bill Cosby and Michael Jordan and every black celebrity to wear an "X" hat and turn the message of the Malcom X movie into one of the very type of capitalism he so preached against?

That movie?

You're kidding right?

If not, than I am picking you up at 4:20 and you're going to give me a hit of whatever you're on...

Spike Lee is the most racist motherfucker in Hollywood, and he uses Al Sharpton tactics to get his films made because his skills cannot draw box office.

The only good thing this black thrash has done is out the down low to middle America.

Thank God, our new black president is going to put filmmakers and politicians like him out of business; people who always play the race card to get someone to write them a check.

Pay_Me_Or_Pay_Me_No_Attention

@Sailor: She was the pants wrangler on that film.

skahammer

There weren't enough white people in Malcolm X. I cry foul!

TryThisAtHome

Again...this is another time I wanted to tie Spike up and give him forty lashes with a wet cat-o'nine tail for opening that big pie hole in the middle of his face...

Hey Mr. Lee...how about this...how about making a movie that doesn't make me want to bitch-slap you because it's has poorly written characters...weak and conflicting story lines...and panders to your need to see girl on girl action...

I'm just saying...

Lala11_7

thank you Clint, for saying what so many of us have wanted to say to Spike Lee for so long.

EuroDad

Frankly, I do have my issues with Clint. Being of the fair persuasion, I personally did not think the "Pale Rider" was pale enough.

Little Mintz Sunshine

It's great to read a honest, liberal guilt-free reaction to Spike's empty allegations.

@Pay_Me_Or_Pay_Me_No_Attention: Spike definitely blew it when he directed Malcolm X. He gave way too little coverage of Malcolm's lessons from Mecca and he turned X's name into a commodity which was ironic since Malcolm famously said, "Show me a capitalist and I'll show you a blood sucker." Spike later kissed his mirror when he name-dropped HIMSELF and his Malcolm X movie in "Bamboozled."

Cam/ron

Agree that Spike should shut his face, but plenty of historical inaccuracy in Flags. That film had some crappy advisers on set man. They got so much wrong, even up to the point that Ryan Philippe's character, the one the whole movie is about NOT having been at the first flag raising, was AT THE FIRT FLAG RAISING, though that's a recent discovery that coincided with production having commenced, but when it's that major a part of the story you gotta correct it.

Benny

@bess marvin, girl detective: You mean it was really Steven Spielberg who directed Schindler's List, and not his nonunion Mexican equivalent Señor Spielbergo?

nick_r

lacolm = malcolm

bess marvin, girl detective

@Pay_Me_Or_Pay_Me_No_Attention: okay, wow. a lot of bile there. i realize this isn't necessarily directed at me but at spike, so i won't get snooty.

a) i will admit that i was young when i saw malcolm x so i didn't really pay attention to that. will give the film a second look though.
b) how did you know that i was a stoner?
c) i'm not at all bothered by the fact that spike wanted to direct malcolm's story rather an a white director. there are just some things that a black person can bring to the lacolm story that a person of anotehr race cannot. it's like a hispanic director directing something about the holocaust.
d) please don't jinx obama
e) profit

bess marvin, girl detective

"2008 DNC primary, with Lee's Obama, starring Sean Penn as the junior senator from Illinois, set to release simultaneously with Eastwood's own Hillary, starring S. Epatha Merkerson."

It'll never happen, because no one would ever believe that S. Epatha would lose if she ran.

BaconCat

@Cam/ron: Can't agree anymore. Spike Lee has capitalized on his "I speak the truth/Anti-Capitalist" agenda for way too long. And seriously there are way too many issues to worry about other than two films that didn't win an Oscar or a Golden Globe. I mean one of them starred Ryan Philippe, so we all know its forgettable.

ArtfulSlinger

@bess marvin, girl detective:

Aww, dollface. It never was directed at you. You rock!

My issue is that Spike played the same race card you don't have a problem with, to take the job away from a Director that had already proven himself a filmmaker that was pro African American to say the least.

I mean, he took the film away from the Director of "In The Heat Of The Night" one of the seminal films considered to have brought the topic of racial equality to the forefront at the time...

All I'm saying is Spike Lee is the Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson of Hollywood. He uses race and reverse racism to bully his films into getting made; rather than letting his artistry speak for itself.

I can't Jinx Obama, my super-powers are not that strong, as much as I wish.

Just to make sure we're peachy, I'll take you shopping and buy you a really nice vaporizer, so you don't get cancer and you're skin stays nice and pretty.

Then; I'll buy you those Mahnolo's or Ferragamo's or whatever it is you have your eye on, so when you go home you can put your man in check for not keeping up.

Cool?

Spike Lee is still a racist prick.

Pay_Me_Or_Pay_Me_No_Attention

Clint Eastwood is a womanizing old bag of gas. It galls me how everyone in Hollywood takes turns kissing his over-rated ass.

elanmilo

I adore Clint. As he lives year round up here in Carmel, he's one of our favorite residents and not at all a Hollywood type. Everyone I know who's met him says he's one of the most down to earth and friendly guys they've met.

Spike on the other hand is a pretentious jerkwad who's living off of his past fame. He runs his mouth and spews verbal diarrhea.

Oxytone

@bess marvin, girl detective:

Not if you use a vaporizer ;)

Otherwise, yeah. Smoke is smoke. Carcinogens are carcinogens.

Trust me, this was Doctor recommended. And from a real doctor, not one who just writes pot pharmacy scripts for some quick cash (though I love those guys too)

But if you buy one, don't buy a "Vapir" and Volcano's are overpriced. Buy a VaporDoc. You can find them online for under $150.

Vaporizer's not only keep you cancer free, but all the herb that gets burned up from fire when you smoke, instead gets in your lungs so..

It's like getting high for the first time, everytime.

Sorry for hijacking the thread! But I don't want any Defamer's to get the big C, if it can be avoided.

Spike Lee is still a racist filmmaker.

Though not to be wholly negative towards the guy,
Inside Man is decent.

Pay_Me_Or_Pay_Me_No_Attention

make that "your" skin...

What can I say? I HAVE to be stoned 24/7

It's the only way to deal with all the fucking coke heads who think they run this town.

Yes, I live near the E! building. How did you know?

Pay_Me_Or_Pay_Me_No_Attention

@Pay_Me_Or_Pay_Me_No_Attention: wait, you can get cancer from smoking marijuana? isn't that still debatable (please let it be)?

I can agree that Spike can't go five minutes without talking about race but I do beleive he has made other great films besides "Do the Right Thing".

@nick_r: Ha!

bess marvin, girl detective

@Pay_Me_Or_Pay_Me_No_Attention: Norman's actually Methodist, by the way, though still a total mensch.

Desk_hack

@elanmilo: If anything, Clint is under-rated.

FYI: Just as Jack Black ain't black and Barry White ain't white, Norman Jewison ain't the son of a Jewi.

Little Mintz Sunshine

When the Levees Broke was pretty amazing, as well. Spike is in the wrong here but I can't right him off as irrelevant. He is a great filmmaker.

hummingpenguin

Team Eastwood

Hart88

@bess marvin, girl detective: I know, just being a dickhead,

Cheap Shot

@elanmilo: Funny, because he's been pretty solidly married to his wife Dina for a few years now.

Oxytone

@elanmilo: And Spike Lee of course is an underappreciated soft spoken gentleman. Obvi.

mattymcd

I think that Robert Downey Jr. would make an outstanding Obama!

scatman

Also,

Clint Eastwood is the perfect example to people that think there's an age limit to filmmaking, and that your cool cred goes out the window once you're silver.

There is no bucket list insouciance to his films whatsoever.

And he's cool enough to play the part of Callahan one more time for the forthcoming Dirty Harry game!

Pay_Me_Or_Pay_Me_No_Attention

@Desk_hack:

Ahh, I wasn't sure. Hence the question mark and parentheses.

But, I totally see how it reads as being an add on to him being white.

Now the question is, if he WAS Jewish, would Spike have been able to wrestle the movie away from him?

Pay_Me_Or_Pay_Me_No_Attention

@elanmilo: ...who made Unforgiven. Advantage, Eastwood.

Dave J.

I hope Clint uses this opportunity to re-make Malcom X starring Jared Leto.

lalalina

Re: Norman Jewison being a Methodist... Lee was all up in arms. First my dad marries a Jew, now a Jew is doing the Malcolm X story... Then he was told that Jewison wasn't Jewish. Er, ah, my dad's wife is a Jew. And Norman Jewison has Jew in his name. He's an honorary Jew. Screw him and his Jew name. Clint Eastwood has Jewish blood. East is code for Mideast, right?

Edward Lionheart

@Edward Lionheart: This has the potential to be offensive if it actually made sense.

Desk_hack

Spike Lee hasn't had a thing to add to the collective stew since I don't-remember-when.

Barack's victory has inflated a lot of flat tires that probably would have stayed flat and un-remarked if it weren't for his trouncing Hillary. Spike's tire has been flat for a LONG time.

The next few months are going to be crucial - and touchy.

I don't have to tell y'all that it will be an UPHILL fight to make Americans embrace a Black candidate to fight the continued oppression and domination of the Republishit, evangelical 'christian' majority that has brought our Nation to the brink of ruin.

Blabbering demagogues of the Black persuasion, pushing their own tired and outworn agendas that have failed time and time again, will do nothing but unseat Barack and demean his campaign in a sea of inconsequential flotsam that doesn't really matter anyway.

Or we can keep the debate focussed on Barack and his worthy run for office.

Don't cloud the water with horseshit reparations talk or other nonsense.

Are you listening, Spike ?

Your horseshit could cost Barry the election.

Think about that and forget your own bullshit press releases.

FlangeSqueal

Yeah, Mars Blackmon. Don't mess with Dirty Harry.

LosersHaveCreditCardDebt

Does it matter that Spike was right?
[www.guardian.co.uk]

Absent from history: the black soldiers at Iwo Jima

Nearly 900 African-Americans fought on the Japanese island but not one appears in Clint Eastwood's Oscar-tipped film, writes Dan Glaister

Personally, they can fight until the troops come home from Iraq for all I care.

IamnotStarJones

Not everything is so black and white...But NYers are `loads of Manachaeists.

Who is exempt from being human? I'd not be surprised to see these two make a film together...

MissVolare

I've always believed Spike to be a hypocrite; that to him, Black is just a means of obtaining the Green.

Around the time of "Do The Right Thing", Spike was making a big stink about the fact that "Harlem Nights" wasn't actually shot in Harlem; that Eddie Murphy was a sellout, yada, yada yada. During this time, there was an event being held in Brooklyn where Spike was supposed to speak; sign books, etc.

I showed up to be greeted with long lines full of mostly Black peeps; media (I introduced myself to Nelson George who was also waiting in line with me) and lots of local community folk. We all paid to get into this event (think it was like $25) All were there just for Spike. Well, he never showed. Turns out opted to do a book signing in Manhattan at that time. Looking at news video of that book signing later that evening, I didn't notice too many (if any) Black people at THAT event.

ic1ny

I've always believed the only color Spike really cares about is Green. Around the time of "Do The Right Thing" he was making a big stink about "Harlem Nights" not actually shooting in Harlem, etc. I attended an event in Brooklyn where he and other speakers were scheduled to discuss D.T.R.T. and other matters. Many showed up; lots of local community residents, and Black media folk (I introduced myself to Nelson George who was on the crowded line with me). Most of us were there just for Spike. He never showed. Turns out he was on Fifth Ave at a book signing while were were waiting on him. From the news video I saw later that evening, not too may colored folk was at THAT event.

ic1ny

@flangesqueal
um...you might wanna check those numbers again, hon. Especially in those all important swing states.
It wasn't exactly a trouncing.
If "Barry" loses, it won't have shit to do with folks getting all in a lather about Spike and his film issues.

KittyCarlisle

jeez, I dunno. he came across as a huge prick to me. on the other hand, he can't seem to keep a woman, maybe he isn't such a huge prick after all

VarickEleazar

Clint round-house kicked Lee as does his films. Bravo my friend, bravo.

kissybitch